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	<title>Comments on: White space backhauls &#8211; A penny wise and a pound foolish</title>
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		<title>By: White Spaces Could Mean Plenty For WISPs &#171; WISPA</title>
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		<dc:creator>White Spaces Could Mean Plenty For WISPs &#171; WISPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that licensed is the only way to use this spectrum. George Ou, policy director of Digital Society, wrote, &#8220;54-698 MHz propagation is too powerful for unlicensed use since people will get [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Tilles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Tilles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 11:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be clear, I wasn&#039;t talking about using white space for backhaul.  I never said that.  Further, I was never even asked about backhaul by the particular reporter.  I was talking about using licensed white space at UHF as a supplement to the UHF frequencies (TV Channels 14-20) that public safety already uses for licensed land mobile operations in the largest urban areas.

Please clarify your article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear, I wasn&#8217;t talking about using white space for backhaul.  I never said that.  Further, I was never even asked about backhaul by the particular reporter.  I was talking about using licensed white space at UHF as a supplement to the UHF frequencies (TV Channels 14-20) that public safety already uses for licensed land mobile operations in the largest urban areas.</p>
<p>Please clarify your article.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Society &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I was wrong about Claudville&#8217;s White Spaces implementation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digital Society &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I was wrong about Claudville&#8217;s White Spaces implementation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote a blog last week criticizing Spectrum Bridge and the city of Claudville for wasting white space mobile [...]</description>
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		<title>By: George Ou</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Ou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It appears that this debate got way off track.&quot;

Peter, I am basing my assessment on statements on Rick Rotondo (chief marketing officer for Spectrum Bridge) who painted a completely different picture than what you are painting here.  Given Mr. Rotondo&#039;s position at Spectrum Bridge, I took him at his word that we were talking about the use of white spaces &lt;strong&gt;for backhaul&lt;/strong&gt; while Wi-Fi was being used for few hundred feet last hop.  I was giving rough frequencies ~700, but I didn&#039;t know you were that far away from 700 MHz and in the 200 MHz range.  If you wish to clarify this, I&#039;d be happy to write a new article that paints a different picture if warranted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It appears that this debate got way off track.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter, I am basing my assessment on statements on Rick Rotondo (chief marketing officer for Spectrum Bridge) who painted a completely different picture than what you are painting here.  Given Mr. Rotondo&#8217;s position at Spectrum Bridge, I took him at his word that we were talking about the use of white spaces <strong>for backhaul</strong> while Wi-Fi was being used for few hundred feet last hop.  I was giving rough frequencies ~700, but I didn&#8217;t know you were that far away from 700 MHz and in the 200 MHz range.  If you wish to clarify this, I&#8217;d be happy to write a new article that paints a different picture if warranted.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Stanforth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Stanforth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The debate about which type of spectrum to use for a specific application is a very interesting one and very dependent on the rules for a particular spectrum band (allowable EIRP, available bandwidth, antenna height, licensed vs. unlicensed, etc).   Given the application, constraints and objectives in Claudville, the use of VHF white spaces spectrum made a great deal of sense. 
 
It appears that this debate got way off track. First, TV White Space is actually VHF and UHF spectrum below 700MHz.   Second, White Space has been proposed for unlicensed use, which means very low power, much lower than licensed allowed for 700MHz licensed spectrum, which means significantly less propagation. Third, the Claudville network uses VHF spectrum (174-216 MHz) to exploit the NLOS characteristics in a hilly and heavily wooded location.   Finally, The Claudville network is deployed as a last mile solution not a backhaul solution, from a Fiber spur into homes, businesses and a school in the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate about which type of spectrum to use for a specific application is a very interesting one and very dependent on the rules for a particular spectrum band (allowable EIRP, available bandwidth, antenna height, licensed vs. unlicensed, etc).   Given the application, constraints and objectives in Claudville, the use of VHF white spaces spectrum made a great deal of sense. </p>
<p>It appears that this debate got way off track. First, TV White Space is actually VHF and UHF spectrum below 700MHz.   Second, White Space has been proposed for unlicensed use, which means very low power, much lower than licensed allowed for 700MHz licensed spectrum, which means significantly less propagation. Third, the Claudville network uses VHF spectrum (174-216 MHz) to exploit the NLOS characteristics in a hilly and heavily wooded location.   Finally, The Claudville network is deployed as a last mile solution not a backhaul solution, from a Fiber spur into homes, businesses and a school in the community.</p>
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		<title>By: How to waste perfectly good mobile radio spectrum &#124; Technology for Mortals</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to waste perfectly good mobile radio spectrum &#124; Technology for Mortals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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