Comments on: How the Claudville White Space broadband network works http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/03/i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation Pro-Culture, Pro-Commerce Thu, 08 Dec 2011 00:48:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: Digital Society » Blog Archive » Being realistic about white spaces http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/03/i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation/comment-page-1/#comment-16481 Digital Society » Blog Archive » Being realistic about white spaces Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:31:58 +0000 http://www.digitalsociety.org/?p=3236#comment-16481 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Chief Cheapmobilecomm http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/03/i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation/comment-page-1/#comment-12644 Chief Cheapmobilecomm Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:20:04 +0000 http://www.digitalsociety.org/?p=3236#comment-12644 Hard to be nice to someone whose main function is debunking. How much does that pay? Hard to be nice to someone whose main function is debunking. How much does that pay?

]]> By: Bob Zielazinski http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/03/i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation/comment-page-1/#comment-8569 Bob Zielazinski Fri, 28 May 2010 03:21:54 +0000 http://www.digitalsociety.org/?p=3236#comment-8569 The whole issue of the 'last mile' is one that troubles the rural and semi-rural areas of our country. While the point is being made that suburban and urban areas might abuse this technology - the fact is that those areas can buy cheap high-speed bandwidth, and the rural areas simply cannot. The investor-owned telecoms are simply not interested in serving low-density markets. We find ourselves in the same position as the farmers did in the 1930's and 1940s - when the Investor-Owned-Utilities did not want to sell them electricity because there were too few customers per mile of line. It took the federal government with their low-interest Rural Electrification loans to get these parts of the country served then, and we will probably need something like it now - or the rural areas will continue to be on the wrong side of the 'digital divide' The whole issue of the ‘last mile’ is one that troubles the rural and semi-rural areas of our country. While the point is being made that suburban and urban areas might abuse this technology – the fact is that those areas can buy cheap high-speed bandwidth, and the rural areas simply cannot.

The investor-owned telecoms are simply not interested in serving low-density markets. We find ourselves in the same position as the farmers did in the 1930′s and 1940s – when the Investor-Owned-Utilities did not want to sell them electricity because there were too few customers per mile of line.

It took the federal government with their low-interest Rural Electrification loans to get these parts of the country served then, and we will probably need something like it now – or the rural areas will continue to be on the wrong side of the ‘digital divide’

]]> By: George Ou http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/03/i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation/comment-page-1/#comment-4264 George Ou Thu, 25 Mar 2010 07:16:41 +0000 http://www.digitalsociety.org/?p=3236#comment-4264 John, one of the nice things about the blog format is its instantaneous aspect. But it can be a liability sometimes when mistakes can be made. But like you said, a positive aspect of this is that you get to see the thought process which is often hidden in traditional media. Most importantly, we learned a lot about the issue. The thing about white spaces issue is that it is very complex. I asked a number of experts during the course of research (apparently not enough given my admitted mistake) and very few people knew much about it much less the technical specifics of Claudville. I commend you for taking the time to talk to a wide range of people and gathering the information you found because not many reporters are going to go to this much trouble to find answers and present a well researched and balanced article. I also appreciate you taking the time to update your article. John, one of the nice things about the blog format is its instantaneous aspect. But it can be a liability sometimes when mistakes can be made. But like you said, a positive aspect of this is that you get to see the thought process which is often hidden in traditional media. Most importantly, we learned a lot about the issue.

The thing about white spaces issue is that it is very complex. I asked a number of experts during the course of research (apparently not enough given my admitted mistake) and very few people knew much about it much less the technical specifics of Claudville. I commend you for taking the time to talk to a wide range of people and gathering the information you found because not many reporters are going to go to this much trouble to find answers and present a well researched and balanced article. I also appreciate you taking the time to update your article.

]]> By: How to waste perfectly good mobile radio spectrum | Technology for Mortals http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/03/i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation/comment-page-1/#comment-4252 How to waste perfectly good mobile radio spectrum | Technology for Mortals Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:02:16 +0000 http://www.digitalsociety.org/?p=3236#comment-4252 [...] I was wrong about Claudville’s White Spaces implementation I erred on criticizing Spectrum Bridge and the city of Claudville for wasting White Space mobile spectrum on a backhaul network because it turns out that they were using 200 MHz White Space spectrum for a last-mile broadband network. Spectrum Bridge has a temporary “experimental” license to use this spectrum but once White Spaces becomes unlicensed, it could cause problems for the broadband network. [...] [...] I was wrong about Claudville’s White Spaces implementation I erred on criticizing Spectrum Bridge and the city of Claudville for wasting White Space mobile spectrum on a backhaul network because it turns out that they were using 200 MHz White Space spectrum for a last-mile broadband network. Spectrum Bridge has a temporary “experimental” license to use this spectrum but once White Spaces becomes unlicensed, it could cause problems for the broadband network. [...]

]]> By: John Greaves http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/03/i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation/comment-page-1/#comment-4240 John Greaves Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:48:25 +0000 http://www.digitalsociety.org/?p=3236#comment-4240 As the writer of the original article, I can't in good conscience allow George to take all of the blame. I made the error of interchanging the terms 700MHz and White Spaces. Although many people make that error, I don't think it was responsible of me to do so and my error could have led George to believe that 700MHz was the part of White Spaces spectrum in question. I do think that Spectrum Bridge is moving forward in a responsible fashion by stepping forward to do the research which can move us toward greater broadband spectrum availability to make our ever increasing reliance on digital technology possible. I do think that the questions addressed in my article on White Space in general are important as was the subsequent discussion, impassioned as it became, not least because it took place in the public eye rather than at scientific conferences and government hearings where we aren't privy to the thought process behind these important decisions. Even in the midst of this controversy I found myself learning more about this important topic and for that I am grateful to all participants. I continue to welcome comments on my article and I apologize for any misleading information in the article. As the writer of the original article, I can’t in good conscience allow George to take all of the blame. I made the error of interchanging the terms 700MHz and White Spaces. Although many people make that error, I don’t think it was responsible of me to do so and my error could have led George to believe that 700MHz was the part of White Spaces spectrum in question.
I do think that Spectrum Bridge is moving forward in a responsible fashion by stepping forward to do the research which can move us toward greater broadband spectrum availability to make our ever increasing reliance on digital technology possible.
I do think that the questions addressed in my article on White Space in general are important as was the subsequent discussion, impassioned as it became, not least because it took place in the public eye rather than at scientific conferences and government hearings where we aren’t privy to the thought process behind these important decisions.
Even in the midst of this controversy I found myself learning more about this important topic and for that I am grateful to all participants.
I continue to welcome comments on my article and I apologize for any misleading information in the article.

]]> By: Digital Society » Blog Archive » White space backhauls – A penny wise and a pound foolish http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/03/i-was-wrong-about-claudvilles-white-spaces-implementation/comment-page-1/#comment-4229 Digital Society » Blog Archive » White space backhauls – A penny wise and a pound foolish Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:33:07 +0000 http://www.digitalsociety.org/?p=3236#comment-4229 [...] [...] [...] [...]

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