Comments on: ISPs have a duty to block malicious traffic

By: George Ou

George Ou — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 04:00:35 +0000

So does 4chan have any responsibility by allowing their network or servers to reflect DoS attacks on the rest of the world? Does 4chan have any responsibility in organizing attacks on other sites or organizations? I know you can always blame it on their members, but someone has to take responsibility for that.

By: John

John — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:12:44 +0000

It’s ironic that you mention child porn, because that’s what this whole 4chan vs. Anontalk war is about. 4chan has rules against child porn, and anyone who posts it is permanently banned and reported to the FBI. Even posting in a messageboard thread with child porn in it will get you banned. The whole reason Anontalk was founded was to create a place where former 4chan pedophiles could discuss their “hobby” without being banned by the moderators or having to fear reprisal from the rest of 4chan’s userbase. The owner of Anontalk (a swedish man named Kimmo Alm and a known pedophile) has constantly been bombarding 4chan with DDoS attacks, child porn images, and automated spam messages advertising Anontalk.com. This whole affair was caused by one such DDoS attack. 4chan’s founder is 20,000 dollars in debt because of attacks like this, and all because he didn’t want child pornography on his website.

By: George Ou

George Ou — Sat, 01 Aug 2009 12:12:29 +0000

If I were AT&T or any other ISP, I would not have done any thing different because I don’t have the authority to do anything more. What I am saying is that a group/website dedicated and openly attacking other groups/websites by organizing DoS attacks and porn floods deserves to be investigated by the authorities and shut down because they’re openly breaking the law. Furthermore, 4chan’s members consistently flirt on the borders with child porn.

By: PacoBell

PacoBell — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:20:27 +0000

George, in your opinion “the response wasn’t heavy handed enough.” If you were AT&T, what would you have done above and beyond the national level block? I hope you aren’t advocating retaliation. That hardly sounds professional.

By: George Ou

George Ou — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:12:43 +0000

You can be a “victim” if someone uses your open relay SMTP mail server to spew spam, but that is not going to change the fact that you will get blacklisted by all the spam list servers and you’ll be prevented from sending email. 4chan was acting as an open relay in the sense that it was reflecting the attack onto other victims who had no choice but to demand that their ISP block the attack from 4chan. It doesn’t matter if the attack from 4chan is deliberate or not, ignorance is never an excuse to run an open relay of any sort.

Furthermore, to call 4chan a “victim” is sort of laughable considering the fact that they are a perpetrator and organizers of DoS attacks.

By: Suomynona

Suomynona — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:17:48 +0000

Anonymous, moot, or 4chan is not in the wrong here. Us having a large amount of DDoS attacks, MAINLY SOURCING FROM ANONTALK.COM (A site filled with pedophiles, feel free to report them to the police). moot purchased the domain name and pays for the right to host his website, and hosts no malicious content himself. He IS a victim of censorship.

By: ace

ace — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:41:32 +0000

And once again, it NEVER fails with the incessant lying, as lying is a way of life for these hacker creeps. I salute AT&T for blocking viruses, trojans and nasty spider scripts, as that is what the REAL truth is as to WHY AT&T has flashed the middle finger [blocked] to 4 Chan. Why should AT&T waste time and energy in dealing with viruses, trojans and uncontrollable script programs emanating from the 4 Chan site?

I don’t condone censorship and I certainly don’t condone lies “in the name of lulz”. The only thing 4 Chan has proven again and again, is that they are infantile and violent. A bunch of two year olds who go on tirades. And just like an out of control two year old, they need some REAL hard slaps from the school of hard knocks.

Any consequences or denial of internet access to AT&T customers due to NAZI actions emanating from 4 Chan [or any other hacker creeps for that matter], I pray that they are caught, rounded up, prosecuted beyond the extent of the law, thrown in a windowless cell and locked up forever until the day they die.

I commend AT&T for taking the step forward and I sincerely hope that other ISP’S follow suit ASAP. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Hackers cause destruction, chaos, waste everyones time and energy. Normal people on the net are SICK AND TIRED of these two year old tantrum antics that 4 Chan displays on a daily basis. These hacker creeps really and truly need to GROW THE F*** UP.

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